15:00:09 <plowsof> Meeting time https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/906
15:00:25 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Hello
15:00:33 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> 👋
15:00:48 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> hello
15:00:49 <plowsof> hello all
15:00:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hello
15:01:24 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> hi
15:01:54 <plowsof> lets discuss some community highlights while people roll in 
15:02:06 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> [v0.18.3.1 released](https://www.getmonero.org/2023/10/07/monero-GUI-0.18.3.1-released.html). boog900 found/patched a bug as a direct result of their CCS ! in this [Pull request](https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9013)
15:02:56 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Cool
15:03:38 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> when will the DNS servers be updated selsta? usually after about a week right? im not seeing any problems reported so far
15:04:48 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> monerobull tested the latest haveno release and noticed a BSOD , leading to an update 🫡
15:05:03 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Nah
15:05:06 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Not really
15:05:39 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I believe the haveno bug was because US and EU use commas and dots differently
15:06:06 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> The BSOD was apparently from the last windows update and has been fixed .... By me upgrading to win11 💀
15:06:21 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thank you for testing
15:06:41 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we also had some community members purchase hardware to help with this RandomX PR: [Jit compiler for RISC-V](https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/pull/275) - tevador. This will increase RandomX performance on RISC-V cpu's. some volunteers including pauliouk and gingeropolous have purchased risc-v hardware to help testing.
15:06:55 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Hello, apologies for being late
15:07:28 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Didn't we recently plan to make riscv less efficient lol
15:07:32 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> (by proxy)
15:07:47 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I think it was to require more memory
15:08:07 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> And special Ryzen instructions
15:08:12 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> this would be a PR for the "future" - a world where RISC-V cpu's are widespread
15:08:38 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Is this kit thing licensed in such a way that bitmain can't use it in closed software?
15:08:50 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Is this jit thing licensed in such a way that bitmain can't use it in closed software?
15:09:28 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> im not sure about that, i can follow up any Q's about this in #monero-pow or with sech1 if they know
15:09:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero PoW
15:10:29 <sech1> It's BSD 3-clause, so they can use it
15:10:45 <sech1> But they already used XMRig with is GPLv3, and they didn't disclose the source code
15:10:46 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> :/
15:10:51 <sech1> So they don't give a damn about licenses
15:10:58 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> lol
15:11:09 <sech1> X5 miners uses modified XMRig inside
15:11:12 <sech1> It's GPLv3
15:11:18 <sech1> Where's the published source code?
15:11:19 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Their miners are blowing up anyways and they don't pay their employers so I doubt they made much money with xmr 🤷‍♂️
15:11:41 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> planned obsolescence is a feature
15:11:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lets sue
15:12:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> monerokin lawyers
15:12:31 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Only if you have the next product lined up
15:12:35 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we owe them 1k for sending empty emails already but thats another issue for #monero-events:monero.social
15:12:36 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Which I very much doubt
15:13:00 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> the next product is probably mining already
15:13:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Nah no way they developed another one
15:13:31 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> This one was a big failure
15:14:09 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> AI needs cpu's so the future is even brighter for RandomX
15:14:26 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Ai uses GPU or asics
15:15:13 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> or machine learning.. they like RISC-V
15:15:46 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> bitmain likely got the cpus far below retail price to make it worthwhile for them. People speculated on engineering samples or similar non-retail silicon
15:16:11 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> There was like $10k of memory in there alone, right?
15:17:03 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> retail price for the specific modules they've used. I'd guess they used whatever modules they were able to source for cheap
15:17:11 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> almost forgetting a special thanks to Rucknium for chasing those none-standard fees [Privacy Advisory - exodus wallet users update](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/176e1zr/privacy_advisory_exodus_desktop_users_update_to/)
15:18:08 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we have a full-house for the active newsletters this week  [Monero Observer](https://www.monero.observer/) - [Revuo Monero](https://revuo-xmr.com/) - [The Monero Standard](https://localmonero.co/the-monero-standard) - [Monero Moon](https://www.themoneromoon.com/)
15:18:59 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> are we missing anything obvious? we can move on to proposals then
15:19:12 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> This website includes them and some other things, it's pretty nice: https://themonero.dance/
15:19:59 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I'm not sure who maintains it but its pretty nice, there are a couple of broken things though
15:20:14 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> yes alot of missing things, looks nice though
15:20:48 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i pointed the general fund donation tweeter to the p2pool blockchain explorer (exploremonero still dead)
15:22:01 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> lets move on to the proposals
15:22:04 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I'd like to thank lza_menace: for the amazing new map for docker monero node. It's so cool
15:22:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes, ty lza_menace:
15:22:50 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> eww, monero.dance has google-analytics.com and gstatic.com javascript. Whoever runs it: is that really necassary?
15:22:53 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> ah yes! 🗺️
15:23:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> dⱮartian:
15:23:14 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I didn't notice that, I have it all blocked
15:23:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> dⱮartian:
15:23:20 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Maybe someone should contact the above
15:23:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Runs it
15:24:03 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> monerosuite.org is from hundehausen  (based on the work of lza_menace too)
15:24:39 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> This looks pretty cool, if I can get it working I'll feature it in my next issue of the Monero Standard
15:25:09 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Is that like an all in one monero deployer?
15:25:09 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> feather wallet tagged a new release. they also need help to verify hashes and such (20~GB of free disk space and time required) https://github.com/feather-wallet/feather/tree/master/contrib/guix#building
15:25:24 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yes, so many configuration options
15:25:26 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> yes monerosuite is an all in one, similar to xmr.sh
15:25:48 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Cool
15:25:59 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Includes block explorer, reverse proxy, tor proxy, monitoring, etc.
15:26:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Tor stuff look weird
15:28:00 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> lets move onto the proposals unless
15:29:08 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> CCS proposals
15:29:08 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we can skip a. [Add retroactive funding proposal for FCMPs](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/403)  waiting for merge.
15:29:11 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> and just make everyone waiting for a ccs payout / merges aware that luigi1111 knows about it and will be handling everything soon(tm) - apologies for the delays
15:29:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> yup
15:30:09 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> b. [dangerousfreedom - wallet work](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/409)
15:30:41 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Voting merge
15:31:16 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> DF is waiting for code reviews from his previous CCS
15:31:52 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Seraphis wallet migration is extremely necessary and DF has major contributions
15:31:53 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> +merge
15:32:20 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> This is a problem in general right
15:33:04 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> indeed, rbrunner7 has provided some positive feedback
15:33:09 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Can we hire someone like cypher stack if we can't find reviewers otherwise
15:34:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> This
15:34:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Daemon needed too lol
15:34:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Seraphis needs proofs and audits
15:34:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And DF needs reviews
15:34:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes
15:35:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> -dev and/or mrl and/or nwlb need to sign off
15:35:39 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> You'
15:35:42 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we have devs on the payroll who can use hours to review DFs work
15:35:43 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> You're right
15:36:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Are those devs just sitting around doing nothing?
15:36:36 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I'm pretty sure most work on very specific things
15:37:28 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Delaying what they work on to review each other's work while we have funds sitting idle is not very efficient
15:38:12 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> koe has had a quick look and said it all seems ok but not actually reviewed it in depth
15:38:14 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Unless there's direct benefits from wallet reviewers being familiar with it in the future
15:39:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> But it would need to be related, no point in a wallet expert reviewing p2p protocol when they don't plan to ever work with it
15:39:37 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i defer all serpahis proposals to the NWLB/seraphis workgroup
15:39:41 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thats my vote
15:40:37 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> hiring outside help from e.g. cypherstack is a good idea
15:40:37 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> maybe we need monero-apprenticeship
15:40:49 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we need experts
15:41:39 <selsta> plowsof: depends on core team availability
15:42:02 <selsta> but yes DNS will be updated after a week or so
15:42:15 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> specifics about dev work can be discussed in other groups, as long as we take care that devs willing to work can work - and that they are not waiting on the ccs bureaucracy
15:42:20 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks! (DNS tells clients there is an update available)
15:42:36 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> otherwise agreeing with this
15:43:33 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i mean on a personal level - DF has attended a monerokon and done other great work for the project - reducing delays is the priority here so he can get funding to continue
15:44:14 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Can he already move forward even without the review?
15:46:28 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> there where some issues when the previous ccs was posted - which required discussion and changes, can view it in the comments. (perhaps showing a lack of direction because this is all new)
15:47:22 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> give him the tasks that we need and he'll do it
15:48:03 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> lets touch on the other proposals
15:48:04 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> c. [XMR BTC Atomic Swaps Desktop GUI - Continued development for 6 months](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/411)
15:48:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> close
15:48:27 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> binarybaron: hasnt had a chance to respond to my comment yet
15:49:13 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> this comment: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/411#note_22562
15:50:13 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> The GUI looks good but it's built on a discontinued protocol
15:51:08 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> BasicSwapDex allows bidirectional monero swaps with BTC and LTC now
15:51:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> UnstoppableSwap
15:52:23 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I'd much rather have someone look into taking BasicSwapDex and ripping out their smsg network and replace it with regular Tor connections
15:52:45 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Or at least evaluate how feasible that would be
15:53:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or pokkst etc implement said features in other wallets
15:53:38 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Yeaj
15:53:38 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Saw a tweet today
15:53:41 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Pokkst implementation looks promising
15:54:04 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Is there any more info than his tweets?
15:54:05 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> pokkst made a PR to the COMIT repo....
15:54:14 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> is he also using the dead protocol?
15:54:27 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> perhaps then its not dead?
15:54:44 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> suspicious https://github.com/comit-network/xmr-btc-swap/pull/1447
15:54:58 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Hm
15:55:05 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/jRrtPURCTbucKTNNvMPLvtSY
15:55:55 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> I want to know how the liquidity providing works
15:56:07 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> looks like the same setup as unstoppable swap
15:56:26 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i think we can defer discussion after raising some questions here and wait for binarybarons initial response
15:56:43 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> moving on
15:56:45 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> d. [Core Monero Concepts](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/412)
15:57:35 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> the previous video they made was _actually_ proudly shared on some social media sites
15:58:08 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Unlike the last animation proposal lol
15:58:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> My comments earlier are an extension of plowsof. Lower # of videos to 2 + (my suggestion) and do video on importance of nodes etc and another on fungibility/adoption4merchants
15:59:17 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> we have 35 XMR from this proposal https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/savandra-videos-for-monero.html . if this Core Monero Concepts is reduced to 2 videos - then it could be almost entirely funded by those funds, and reduce the logisticcs issues with trying to push 4 videos out in a short time span
15:59:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Im ok with more videos following fwiw
16:00:39 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> When would this be decided and allocated? I discussed a bit with xenu and we are open to shorten it to 2 videos to start if it makes sense. But if we could choose freely we would like to keep it to 4 videos as the initial proposal, less administration
16:01:17 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> About the script and topics I refer to x3nu  to comment 👍️
16:01:37 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Let vosto work without needing to deal with us again every few weeks thankd
16:02:09 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> the hive mind will make it so. if reducing to 2 videos , then its possible that the price is halfed and it goes to funding for 0.x XMR?
16:02:24 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> which comment?
16:02:39 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> this comment
16:02:40 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> and absorbs the savandra funds (thus closing that proposal for good)
16:02:41 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> this comment ceetee
16:02:48 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> similar path to AcceptXMR
16:03:06 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> this feedback, ceetee
16:03:56 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> currently this proposal is 72XMR - halving it to 2 videos makes 36 XMR meaning if people want it to be 2, we could fund it with the 35 XMR , and put it to funding with 1 XMR
16:04:13 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> bish bang bosh
16:04:16 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> the general idea is to have a full suite of videos discussing intermediate topics about Monero. So for example the four topics in the proposal show this. We also have future plans for videos as well to help with adoption and understanding: e.g. atomic swaps, seraphis. By doing a buik order now we can focus on four topics that have a lot of merit and content  and I believe it would<clipped message>
16:04:16 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org>  benefit the community to have videos like this they can just link to a noobie that will introduce them to these ideas.
16:04:50 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> and you guys have already seen the quality from the tail emission/dynamic blockswize vid :_)
16:05:03 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> and you guys have already seen the quality from the tail emission/dynamic blockswize vid :)
16:06:03 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> yeah it  was visually appealing
16:06:28 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> if two videos is more convenient that works as well. we can again show we are capable of producing quality to make future funding more valuable
16:06:45 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> If it's not a big deal for the community I'd prefer the current proposal but like x3nu  says we are open to changing it
16:06:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Seraphis and stomic swaps?
16:06:55 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> so we have several options here , move to funding as, move to funding as is -= to the 35 XMR, half it and -= 35 so it requires 1 xmr to complete funding
16:07:18 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> if halfing people need to decide on what 2 vids they want
16:07:23 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> from the proposal:
16:07:23 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> >• Random X: Understanding the significance of ASIC resistance
16:07:23 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> >• Breaking down the how-to and the rationale for P2Pool.
16:07:24 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> >• Nodes: Why every Monero enthusiast should consider running one.
16:07:24 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> >• Fungibility: Explaining its essence in the context of Monero.
16:07:31 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> overall i am +1 for vost and xenu to produce more videos for us
16:07:45 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> As am IU
16:07:47 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> As am I
16:07:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> i am as well
16:07:59 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> some discussion to finalise what is going to happen is needed
16:08:03 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> that's not in this proposal, but we have future plans for that, yes. we need to wait until more work is done on them though before spending time on it
16:08:05 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> RandomX and fungibility I think are good if halfing
16:08:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But making videos that only last a few months is retarded
16:08:13 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> do we nee d a p2pool how-to? breaking it down sure but i believe there are already good tutorials
16:08:28 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i apologise for spelling halfing wrong and misleading you all. halving *
16:08:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Landscape forever changing on atomic awaps, seraphis, p2pool, even fungibility
16:08:56 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Keep proposal as is, redistribute funding to ours, 35/72 xmr in the funding, that's optimal IMO
16:08:57 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> RandomX and fungibility I think are good if halving
16:09:11 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> 34 or 35, whatever was left in savandra's
16:09:15 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> well for fungibility that isn't really about technology but moreso the characteristic of fungibility because monero isn't perfectly fungible
16:09:43 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> so we will have example of what we mean by that and benefits of fungibility
16:10:02 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I have to leave the meeting. Goodbye everyone and thank you plowsof for moderation
16:10:15 <m-relay> <v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> x3nu: Is probably up to work on the scripts while we wait for the second half funding, x3nu  ? No time would be wasted
16:10:18 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> atomic swaps and seraphis are indeed constantly changing. althought seraphis I think would be ideal once it is finalized because this is the largest hardfork  in Monero's history
16:10:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Right. So why makeba video on fungibikity when xmr is not yet fungible?
16:10:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ita like making news reports on "whats to come"
16:10:31 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> recanman vote on the last one before you leave?
16:10:37 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> e. [escapethe3RA Monero Observer maintenance (2023 Q4)](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/414)
16:11:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> merge
16:11:25 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> it would be like making a video on privacy but monero isn't perfectly private. it isn't an on or an off switch but an ideal that development for Monero aims for
16:11:25 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> +merge, Monero observer I look at all the time
16:11:26 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> monero.observer left our minds, but never our hearts and has been back the past week pushing out content as usual
16:11:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Didnt check price, bur merge if same as last
16:11:44 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks for attending recanman
16:11:52 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> price is the same rates as the prev
16:11:53 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I checked almost every day on whether monero.observer was back. It's great. Goodbye
16:12:20 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i suggest you to set up an rss reader instead
16:12:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> G2g too
16:12:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> back in a few
16:12:45 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/XvlSJVtviXKzgOWYRKVgYwjz
16:12:46 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> its so good
16:13:15 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> we think it would be a good idea to introduce the topic as part of running a node because the question of "what can I do to help Monero" comes up a lot. it wouldn't be a literal guide but a guide emphasizing the difference between centarlized pools and p2pool and why long term p2pool is what we should aim for
16:13:29 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah that is good
16:13:34 <plowsof> thanks all for attending, we can call an end to the meeting here. we have to come to a decision on how to move forward with the core monero concepts proposal asap